Jackypoowoo: From 5 Viewers to Viral in One Year | Ep 19

Jackson (jackypoowoo) went viral on YouTube with a 2-minute Hollow Knight clip, his parents cheering him on while he finally beat a boss with 5 viewers watching. That moment changed everything. One year later he has 4,000 followers, a 10-month community tournament with a $2,000 prize pool, and he streams every single day.
In this episode we talk about how he went from para-athlete and vlogger to daily Twitch streamer, what actually drove his growth, and why he never once thought about quitting.

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Transcript

Teaser

SPEAKER_01 0:00

I've been on content creation for six years now. And I'm gonna continue doing that. Whether it's a slow growth, a big growth, or whatever, we're gonna keep doing it. My phone is blowing up on YouTube, on Instagram, on TikTok. I'm getting so many comments. Low-key, I like myself a little too much. So what it helped a lot with me is that I like to see what I can do by like looking at myself.

Intro

Patty 1:01

You're also the youngest guest that I've had. Hi, how are you doing? Thank you so much for joining.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

I'm doing fantastic this morning over here, and uh thank you for having me here.

Patty 1:12

You know what? It's really funny how I first found you because I'm usually not against people making clips, but when people make clips, it's really hard to grow just from that. But I found you through that one YouTube short clip that kind of blew up. So it's really funny that that's how I ended up finding you. And when I clicked on your Twitch that was like on the YouTube bio, you were actually live. And I was like, you had like this explosive energy, and you know, you you suck me right in because that's not something that I see like super genuine, because a lot of people fake like overreacting, but you you were just a pile of energy, probably your age showing too.

Being authentic on stream vs performing for an audience

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Maybe, maybe that's what it is, and maybe it's also because I haven't when the time that you showed joined me, I don't think I was at a year yet. I just actually hit a year yesterday, and it's been quite a journey for me. And with streaming, I've always liked to be as genuine as possible. Like I used to watch streams, and I like know like you know, people cannot be like 100% authentic or anything like that. And how I like to go into streams is I like to stream how I want to see someone stream, basically. And so I don't know if that makes too much sense, but that's how I always kind of used um as a basis of like how I want to stream. And I don't know, I want to get people hooked in too. I want people to be like, oh my gosh, wait, let's see what this guy has, you know. Like I like to kind of plan things out and I want people to get hooked in as much as possible. So if you don't like it from the start, then you can just leave. You don't have to like be there. But if you're liking it, then I like to see you um throughout my streaming journey.

Patty 3:03

Yeah, that makes total sense. It's like we as a streamer, I'm also I also try to be like the streamer that I want to watch every time. And I think it goes for all the guests that I have had so far that the the people that I watch are usually very like genuinely themselves on stream because I don't know if it's as normal now, but you know, some years ago, the normal for you know YouTube and Twitch is like to have a persona that you know you put a mask and that is what you are in the internet. And I feel like nowadays people are just you know being themselves on stream, and I've I think that's the best way to stream.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

I think being as authentic as you can really shows like a deeper connection between, you know, it is like a parasocial relationship, but being more authentic, you want to actually see more of that than seeing something completely fake. I mean, that's goes for friendships and just people that you see. You want to have that authentic authenticity as much as possible, and that's as much as I want to be. Of course, though, when I do stream, you know, it is like it is an airtainment, it is a form. And so, like right now, if I was streaming, I'd be like way more, I guess, enthusiastic and all this, but not as fake, you know. And I'm just mellow right now because we're just doing a recorded podcast, so yeah.

Patty 4:26

Yeah, I feel that it's the same all around, especially because you know it's an audio medium. So uh for the extroverts, I'm always like, do I need to ask them to be careful and not screen? Because so but I watch a lot of people like you that you know the the chat, I feel like the chat hypes us up, and like we are a lot more like extroverted because of chat, because you know, we're either we're generally happy to see them or something else, so we speak out a lot differently than you know just having a conversation like this.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Yeah, it's it's actually fantastic. Every time that I go live, you know, I sometimes have a plan of what I want to do. I stick to that plan, but I I'll I'll listen to chat, I'll hear them out. And if they have a topic that they want to talk about, then we can talk about it. I love being sidetracked, and I love not I love just like being there, I guess, for them, because they're using their time to watch that streamer. So I want to give them like, hey, you're the reason why I'm gonna be I'm streaming today, so I get to talk to you, so you get to like interact. That's what Twitch is, that's what live streaming is. It's like a form of interaction between these people.

The Journey of Streaming: From YouTube to Twitch

Patty 5:36

As a recording time, you celebrated your one-year anniversary yesterday. And that means you probably spent some time going down memory lane. And we also want to hear about how you started streaming, why Twitch. So tell us your origin story.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

So yesterday was May 20th, my one-year streaming anniversary, and it was a great stream. I had this idea, or actually, another streamer friend of mine actually gave me this idea to do a 12-hour stream, and every hour of that stream, we highlight that month of that year. So I started in May. So that first hour, we looked at all my VODs back in May because I like to save all my VODs as an archive because you know I own it to my streams. You know, I like what I create and I want people to see where I did start, and I have everything all saved. And we looked back every hour and we would do little snippets of what games we would do or what I wore back then and all my things back. So when I first started streaming a year ago, I it's it's uh it's kind of it's kind of crazy how I did it. I kind of just did it off a whim. But I've had some experience with content creation beforehand. Back in 2020, I had a YouTube account, but this was more like a uh vlogs or like short films kind of thing, and I did it for purely passion, and I really enjoyed like creating little short films with my brother and also vlogging my experiences as a paraathlete. Those at home, I'm an amputee, I'm a left-leg amputee, and I have a prosthetic, and I've been in the para sport world for a majority of my life, but uh now that I'm done with college, I've kind of tried to find out what I want to do outside of that. And with content creation, that was a great segue to going into live streaming. When I was wrapping up with school, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, and I already had experience with live streaming before on YouTube, whether that was making uh cooking streams or like puzzle streams, never really any gaming. Because I never really grew up playing a lot of games by myself. I really wanted to play games with my friends or with people, and that's when it clicked to me wait a minute, I can play these games with an audience. And when I first started streaming, I never had that like expectation of having an audience off the bat. I don't feel like you should ever have that expectation when you first start something because it's a growth, it's a build-up to that. And it was I mean, honestly, it was a very, very great journey. It was very slow at first, but every stream I loved. I loved just creating something uh for I guess like what to like build myself up as who I am right now, you know, from the very start. So I played like Jedi Survivor. I for the first stream actually I did, I didn't know what I wanted to do, but I knew that I wanted to be a variety streamer, and so I played a bunch of games. I played Minecraft, Marvel Rivals, Pixel Gun 3D, uh, Wordle games, you know. I just did a whole bunch, and I just threw out there for like a six-hour stream, and that's basically what my streams were for the month. And on June 27th, I hit affiliate, and I was like, whoa, this is crazy! What the heck? It took me a month to hit affiliate. I'm like, that this is like huge for me, and so I just remember like some streams I would be getting getting some people coming in, but most of it were bots, and a lot of it were like people trying to get me to like buy their art, and I'm like, no, I don't want to buy your art, I don't have the money. And so I didn't, I was like, okay, well, I mean, thanks for stopping by stream. So uh a lot of my streams looking back, I would play them as a let's play because since no one was really chatting or watching, I still wanted the VOD to be as entertaining as possible. So I would talk and talk and talk and react and do all this kind of stuff just to myself. But I know that my camera's on, so I want to give it as the best as I can. And then I had some life changes. I moved to my childhood home, so this is where I am now. So I did a couple streams of like uh introducing like this is what my room is now and all that, and then I started playing this one game, Hollow Knight. And I think that's when it kind of changed a little bit because I started actually getting people coming in and starting chatting with me because they love Hollow Knight, and I was super new to it, and people on live streaming, I think the biggest thing that they really like is to really help out that streamer. And whenever I ask for it, oh, they will jump to it, and it was fantastic because Hollow Knight is a game that can be very confusing, and I'll definitely need some help. So they were very, very ecstatic to be there to watch uh my first, I guess, interaction of this game. And then I was streaming this game, I think, from probably July to I think August, and then I've familiar with content creation, but I never really did it too much. I would like clip really, really short clips on my VODs account and nothing really too entertaining, and then that's when I decided, hey, I'm gonna make a main YouTube account, and I posted one video of a clip from Hollow Knight, and it didn't do as good. Then the second video, it didn't do as good, but then later, like a couple days later, I was at my friend's lake cabin, and all of a sudden, my phone is blowing up on YouTube, on Instagram, on TikTok. I'm getting so many comments. And this video, for context, it's about a two and a half minute video of me trying to defeat a boss in Hollow Knight. And it was a different kind of video that people are not used to seeing because what happens in this video is I get frustrated that I'm not beating this boss, and I can't beat this boss until my parents come into my room, they cheer me on, and then because like I was so focused with trying to ignore them, I was like locked in, and I was able to defeat the boss while they watched, and so people were like, Whoa, this is so wholesome! Wow, like this is so amazing that they're very supportive of you. And at the end, one of them asked, like, hey, how many people do you have watching? And I'm like, Oh, I have five people. And then when people heard that, they were like, That's crazy. This guy does not seem like a person that would only have five viewers, and so they all wanted to support me by subscribing on YouTube and following me on Twitch, and ever since then, like it kind of just went up and up, and that like didn't scare me. No, that like fueled me to create the same content that I've been doing, but now cater that more toward the chatters. And so a long time ago, I said that I'm gonna do a sub-a-thon at a thousand followers, and we hit that goal. We uh I was like, all right, I gotta figure out how to do a sub-athon now. So I did that, and I've just been like using this platform, using live stream to really show I like to be a creative person and coming up with just like cool little like stream ideas. I feel like all the streamers like to say that and everything, but I mean with this, I've created uh I had this idea like locking myself in my bathroom for 24 hours in complete isolation. I had another stream where I just read a book. That's it. I had another stream where I just chatted. I literally forced myself to read every single person's chat for like the whole entire stream. And it was a seven and a half hour stream, so that's kind of crazy. Um, and then like in January I had this idea where hey, what if I do a collab every single day of the month of January? And I pulled out, I've I found 30 streamers and I planned out like, hey, what I want is a video out of this where it gets to highlight the different people on Twitch. So we um I reached out to the people that are specific to like what they have, their their niche, basically. So I hit up like IRL streamers, I hit up like streamers that like to uh knit or not knit uh crochet and like build Legos and doing stuff other than just gaming. Of course, I played a lot of games, but really what they were best at to like just show what you know what what happens on Twitch, you know. Um, and then I also am currently in the works of my Pooh games, which is like a 10 months of tournaments. So at the end of every month is gonna be a new game tournament, and it's this whole entire thing that we're currently on the fifth month and we're doing another tournament, and it's it has been super awesome, it's been really great, but um I'm yapping a little too much now. So that's that's basically everything so far.

Patty 15:10

Yeah, I you touch on a lot of points that you know I feel like are very important. One, I think the the one thing that kept you going early on when you

Community Building: The Importance of Interaction

Patty 15:21

didn't have viewers was like you need to genuinely love streaming, love content creation if you want to be able to keep going. Because if you're gonna stream because you want an audience, because you want donations or whatever, if that is like your focus, you're gonna burn out very easily. But if you're doing it purely because you enjoy what you're creating, that is gonna allow you to keep going. And I didn't know a lot of a lot of the things that you actually did. The January being able to pull out 30 people to you know plan an entire month of collapse is insane. Like, I usually have like if I do one collab per month, I'll be happy.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

That was so new to me because I was kind of like a solo streamer, you know, and I was invited to this one com, this one Discord comm that had just a bunch of streamers, and I'm like, hey, I'm gonna see if anyone would be down to be to participate in this idea that I have. And it's so great because I've because of that, like I've been introduced to so many great streamers, and I feel like very seen now in like this community that literally like six months ago, like I would have been like just so I would not have expected where I am right now, like six months ago,

Navigating Career Goals in Content Creation

SPEAKER_01 16:40

you know.

Patty 16:40

Another thing that you also said is that before Twitch you did YouTube, and also because you finished uh college and you were unsure what you wanted to do. Do you have like a goal now? Like, do you want content creation to be your thing or you're still figuring out?

SPEAKER_01 16:59

So I'm in a very interesting predicament right now where I actually had a job interview yesterday, it's gonna be a part-time job, but I want to find a way to like just like support myself and also support my passion because this is my passion, this is what I like to do, and I've done it like so so consistently for this whole entire year, and I want to continue doing that, and that's the goal of two years. Let's let's get to two years, you know, and then after that two years, let's get to three years. So we're gonna take it just day by day and just continue seeing what else, what else have I got for you guys, you know?

Patty 17:39

Basically, that is the challenge, isn't it? Being able because being able to do streaming as a career is so hard, it's depending on where you live as well, depending on how much money you need per month. But it's it's very challenging, and I know a lot of streamers that stream full-time and they also have their jobs. So if you get a part-time and you're able to, you know, do it, you'll probably have a lot more time to stream.

The Social Aspect of Streaming: Meeting Fellow Creators

Patty 18:05

But yeah, one year you've been streaming semi-every day, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:10

Yeah, I mean, the longest break I've had, I think was two weeks, but literally, like, well, there's a good reason I got sick, and then I also took a week off because I was going to Chicago to meet up with another streamer, and that's another great thing that I found. I was never chronically online. I'm a very social person and I'm very much of an extrovert, but I used all that outside of being online, and I never like knew that like, wow, you could build a really great community online, and it was fantastic, and it just transferred super easily from you know my social college life to now my social Twitch life, my live stream life, you know, my online, my Discord life, my you know, you know that. And and it's been very great because it's like, oh wow, it's just as amazing. I'm not gonna lie. You meet so many great people. Um, I have a great, great list of mods that I have right now. I mean, some are from Australia, one one's in Germany, you know, and it's like, wow, where did I find these people? But they're fantastic. And I actually have plans right now to meet up with another streamer from Wales, you know, and it's really great because I've already actually visited a couple of streamers now. I visited one in Seattle, and then I just visited one in Chicago, and it's like we did IRL streams, and it's just fantastic that you get to meet these people, and then someday you get to actually see them and just build that stronger connection. Yeah.

Patty 19:38

Random question because you're talking so much about meeting people. Are you going to TwitchCon?

SPEAKER_01 19:43

I am planning on going to TwitchCon. I really, really want to go to TwitchCon so I can meet even more people because you know, when I think about it, you know, when you have your other streamers, you know, that you're not really too close with, because some streamers are I could say they're definitely my friend. And other streamers, you know, they're my coworker, I guess. But we know of each other, you know, we're acquaintances, and it'll be so cool to just see them like in person. So I definitely want to go to TwitchCon because then I'll have the chance to meet these people and then also sometimes even meet chatters too, if they go to TwitchCon and just be a part of that. And of course, it's content too. IRL streams here and there when I'm in San Diego, first time in San Diego. So yes, I I definitely want to go.

Patty 20:25

I I do not know. I everyone that I speak with says the vibe of the US TwitchCon is a lot different, but I did go to the Europe one last year, and it it is super different, like the type of relation you get with like these other streamers after you actually meet them in real life, and you know, you sit down and have a chat. So I hope you can go because it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Yeah.

Community Identity: The Origin of Poos and Woos

Patty 20:51

So before we move on into like a bigger picture kind of thing, I wanted to ask about your community identity. Where did that come from? Did you make it? Did they make it the poos and the woos?

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Oh my gosh. Okay, so so my real name is Jackson, and my I guess username is Jackie Poo-woo. So my IRL friend, Kaylee, she likes to come to streams all the time, but I've known her since freshman year of college. So we've we've been friends for like five plus years now. And she I I this is a real this is this is my this is my username story. Okay, so on Instagram, I like to make a lot of accounts. And my spam account, I I one day I changed the name of them all to like make them sound like consistent. And one of them is Jackie Spam's Oohwoo, which is like my spam account, right? And I made another account and I asked Kaylee, I'm like, hey, what should I name this account? I want it to sound similar to like Jackie Spam's oowoo. And then and then she was like, wait, what about like Jackie Poo? And I'm like, wait, that's perfect. It like rhymes and it fits. And so I used that for that account and I never really touched it because my username that I've always gone by is Jack Tack. It's like Jack Attack without the second A. So it's just Jack Tack. And that was kind of like my thing. And then my original vlog YouTube name was Nerdy Asian. What was I doing? Hey, this is when I was a senior in high school. So like it was it was a different time. But I I changed that to my real name. And then when I started streaming, I'm like, I need a new name. I don't want to be nerdy Asian. I don't want to be Jack Tack. And I looked at my Instagram accounts. I'm like, oh, Jackie Poo. Let's use this one because it's just something that I have and I own. So that's where it came from. And it's really great. I love it because when I started content creation on Twitch and live streaming, I am the type of person to love to plan things and look ahead. So I made a Discord server. I made a Reddit. I made a link tree and I made sure everything was linked and I had all these accounts and everything linked to the Jackie Pooh brand. Because at the end of the day, like, yes, you are streaming, but you want to make it a brand so you can identify yourself as that. And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to identify myself. So in the Discord, if you choose to be a part of the community, you can either be a poo or a woo. And just to like, you know, spice things up. And I always like to say one is better than the other, but I'm not going to tell you which is which, even though they're the exact same. I like to like just tell them that. And yeah, I think it's fun. And when it comes to more of like the brand, I used to wear, I actually I can grab it right now. Um, I used to wear a bucket hat. So my original this yellow one, and I wanted to find something that like you know identified myself amongst other people. So it was this yellow bucket hat. And then I went to LA, the iconic daddy bucket hat. And so I used to wear this every single day on stream, and people made uh art on it, uh, like like um like fan art. So I have like a bunch of like emotes now with the hat and channel art with the hat. And so I think the biggest thing besides like the poo-woo is the bucket hat. And that's kind of like the brand that I've been kind of leaning on. So yeah.

Patty 24:37

That that is super fun. That's like I I noticed that uh your Discord is like the hat. I never knew the backstory behind it, so that is really cool. And I love the the little banter, like which one is better because there's there's like other people that do, I guess, similar things, but I feel like it was so natural that it's a really cool like backstory that it it just happened like that.

Building a Community and Engagement

Patty 25:05

Over one only one year, you built a community of over 4,000 followers, I believe, that you already have. Do you do you see a relation between the followers that you gain and the active people that you have watching?

SPEAKER_01 25:20

When that video blew up on across all the platforms, they like to these are do these are people that you don't really spend their time watching live streams, but are on the content side of things, that they like to watch content. And a lot of the followers and subscribers came from people that really saw, I guess, potential in me, and like they really saw this guy is probably worth showing my support for. And I don't expect anything from anybody. And because you at the end of the day, you are your own person, right? If you want to go and support and that's all you want to do, fantastic. You did something, thank you. And if you want to come into stream, that's great too. Like, I am so, I guess, nonchalant in the fact that, like, hey, uh, you you supported no matter what you did, you were there, whether you're lurking, whether you're chatting, whether you're uh subbing, whether you're doing anything, anything is fantastic, and it's always welcome too. And it just like I did gain a better uh average viewership, but remember at the end of the day, that's not what I was looking for. I was just looking for a great time to play games with an audience. So yeah, I mean, like, I'm just I'm just down for anything, you know, I'm chill with anything. If new people like to come in and like I like to sell them on, you know, who I am as a person and they like to stick around, that's fantastic. You know, like you're your own person, you don't have to do anything, but like seeing you there is fantastic. Interacting with you is something that I like to do, and I like to yap, I like to chat, I hate dead space, you know, or dead silence and stuff. So, you know, whatever it is, however you if you're not even comfortable, like there's some people too that love to just lurk, then they'll say something like I've been here for a while, and it's like now you're ready to talk. I mean, hey, I was ready to talk from the start, but since you're ready now, let's talk, you know? So that's just you know, I'm just cool with anything, really.

Aiming for Partnership and Growth

Patty 27:20

Yeah, that's super fun. Also, uh, since you you you have this other view of like you're just here to stream and you know, do your passion. Is uh achieving partner a thing that you want, or is it like if it happens?

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Right now it's like if it happens, you know, but like partner is fantastic. It's a great way to it's a great next level, next step of like this streaming career that I do want for myself. So because I want this to be an actual like career for myself, uh that'd be that'd be great, you know. Um, but however I get it is however I get it. But I do strive and I do want to work myself to making these accomplishments. You know, there's these achievements that you get uh that you get to see on Twitch and uh on the chan uh channel dashboard, I've I've looked through every single thing there and I've tried my best to like really maximize like min-max my channel dashboard, really. So there's this new features. If there's a new feature, I jump to that. You know, I really want to be in the loop when it comes to all that kind of stuff. And I actually got an interview, not an interview, but like a yeah, kind of like an interview about like a new feature uh about it. So like it's it's cool to just be a part of that and just yeah, jump the jump the trend, jump the train, you know, jump all this kind of stuff, you know. Like, um why not? It doesn't hurt, so do

The Poo Games: Community and Competition

SPEAKER_01 28:46

it.

Patty 28:47

Exactly. And just another thing that you talked on your your the things that you're doing, uh the pool games that I feel like they deserve like their special spotlight. It's a 10 a month tournament and you have prize pools. How did this come to be? Like how are you funding it? Just tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Well, my original plan was to okay, so it was 15, it's a $1,500 prize pool, but it's been increased to $2000. And the idea was every single month I have 10 months, and the winner of each month gets $100, and then the there's a secret final month, the 11th month, that all the winners of these previous 10 months compete in one final month for $500. And I've increased it to $200 because I got like a person willing to fund it and like I guess sponsor it. So every month is gonna be $150 now. But in my head, I was like, okay, it's gonna be $2,000 in a span of 12 months. If I can't make that money, I'm like, I'm like in my head, I think I can make that money like through what I've been doing every month on streams and stuff like that, to be able to afford that. And I've like let people know like in my bout session and all that kind of stuff that if you do want to like support it, that like will go to the community for the the prize pool. So yeah, I mean that's basically like the idea of it, and I've been able to like afford it still and still being able to afford it. So I just want people to come in and have a good time and you know make it worth their time, I guess.

Patty 30:30

Yeah, so they're making something for the community, and the community is in its way also funding it. So but I I I think it's a great idea.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

It's like a return, basically, you know, it's like yeah, basically.

Patty 30:43

I feel people like you that you you know you don't have to worry about rent and all these other things, and you're able to, you know, get the support of the community and give back to the community in this way. It's not easy for everyone. So whenever someone is able to do it, I always find it's very amazing.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Thank you.

Openness and Personal Storytelling

Patty 31:02

Okay, taking then the step on more the more personal parts, you are very open about um everything about you, you know, about being an MPT, your ethnicity, being adopted. Was this like something you've always been online very open about it? Is there a reason why you you are like open like this, or was it like a conscious decision that you did?

SPEAKER_01 31:28

So going into content creation, I've already had a digital footprint. I footprint. Uh anyway, so with paraathlete uh athletics, I you know was in uh wheelchair track and also wheelchair basketball. And with this, like, you know, I would have articles and I almost made it for Team USA, almost made it to the Paralympics, I made it to the Paralympic Trials, and um, if you just looked up my name, Jackson Atwood, like you'll just see articles about it. And I'm like, okay, if people already know that, then why can I not just make my online persona match? Right. So like even though I'm Jackie Poo-woo, I'm Jackson Atwood as well. They're the exact same person. And so I wanted people to like really tie both those sides of me together as one. So I never kept any secrets. I've always wanted people to know, like, yes, if you just like it, it's so hard to hide it. Like, literally, if you search up Jackie Pooh, you'll know my name is Jackson, and then you'll know that I live, you know, in the United States. You'll know that I'm in APC. You'll just already know this beforehand if you just do the littlest bit of stalking. And, you know, when you're online, everybody stalks. I admit I stalk too. I love stalking other Twitch streamers and all that kind of stuff. But um, I'm like, why bother myself with hiding anything when it's already out there? So I'm very open and I'm I'm very open person in general. Like, I really want people to be like, oh, so this is what this guy is. Oh, so this is what this guy has done. Oh, this is what this guy is planning on doing. You know, I don't want to hide that. I don't want to gatekeep that, you know. Just oh. So yeah.

Patty 33:10

Do you think any of the these things about your personal life shaped you in like the kind of creator you've become and the kind of community that you've built?

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah, I think uh I was very I think I was definitely a social person like growing up, but I think I was more of a social person when I joined Paris Sports Procan, which is like the program that introduced me to Paris uh athletics and Paris Sports, and it was just a great community, and I was always a part of something like that, and I think I've always strived to be in I think a community. Um and that was like wow, I can translate that to what I am in now. And yeah, I mean like I don't know, I feel like I've had just a I grew up adopted in a household and that loved me and was able to just support me however that they can. And it was really great to be a part of that, and now I want to use what I had growing up to create things for people, and that's what I've been doing, and that's what I want to keep doing. So, like the poo games, like all this, and all this and all that. So I don't know.

Patty 34:32

The wholesome creators always have like this inner passion that translates very well for to content creation, I think. You you also have been in an Apple ad. Did this happen because of your online presence? Did it affect Twitch in any way?

SPEAKER_01 34:48

A lot of the things actually hopped in because I'm an amputee, and it's really great having connections through that way because it's like I'm an amputee, I'm missing a leg. Literally, I'm missing a leg. I'm handicapped every day. But I what happened was it was a birth defect, and I've been used to oh my gosh, having um this uh this handicap like my whole entire life, right? Like it's just what I'm used to. It is it is what I am, it's who I am. And being having all these opportunities, I think that's the biggest thing that I've had in my life is just having a great amount of opportunities to travel the world for competitions and to get in an Apple ad. And I went ahead and applied for some places. My my coach was like, Hey, there's some like commercials that you can do as an amputee. And I'm like, let's do it. And I apply and I apply, and I got an agent, and my agent was like, Hey, uh, I think I just got you a spot for this really cool commercial. Didn't know what it was until I got there. I didn't know what it was until I got there. I was like, what the heck? I'm in an Apple commercial, what the heck? So it was really cool, and I hope to you know have more opportunities in that way and really just open to like anything for real, like any opportunities, I will bank on that. So yeah, that's just what it is. But yeah, the biggest thing was because of the uh amputation, the leg.

Passion Over Numbers: The Streaming Journey

Patty 36:09

Okay, so we've been talking a while about you know all of your journey and more personal about you. So let's just take a moment of like reflection. And you've been streaming for quite a short time. I've I've been on Twitch for like 10 years. So for me, you've you've been streaming for a very short time, but because you have this passion, did you ever thought about quitting?

SPEAKER_01 36:36

No, what? No, what no, I've not thought about quitting. I've I've changed some things in my life to want to continue doing this, and I've thrived doing this. Like I've I've held off on a job for such a long time just to keep doing this, you know? And like because I'm like, I guess allowed to like do it, I'm gonna keep doing it. I want to keep doing it. And no, I did not think about quitting, but I've definitely taken breaks just to like help with my mental. And um, what's the great thing about a community too is that they will tell you to take a break because they want you to grow and recover just so you can be at your best, you know? And so I was like, okay, wait, they care, so I'm gonna listen. And it's been good, but thinking about quitting, never thought about quitting. Uh I've been on content creation for six years now, and I'm gonna continue doing that, whether it's a slow growth, a big growth, or whatever, we're gonna keep doing it.

Patty 37:33

So you're not gonna see me as well. When when I I I knew you were my guest, this is a question I ask everyone because everyone that has been here, it's like either like me that has been here since just in TV, or people that have been doing it, you know, for five, six years. But but yeah, Twitch has a lot of ups and downs, and you know, during the pandemic, everybody's numbers went up and then they all went down, and a lot of people went through, you know, mental issues, there's just so many. So a lot of people went through a lot, and growing on Twitch is not easy, and I know that even people with passion they want to have the community, they want to see the numbers grow, and it's very discouraging when it doesn't happen. So that's why a lot of us, you know, have this why am I here? Why am I doing this? But I think because you have this clear passion and reason other than the numbers. I I kind of knew that we were going to say no, but I wanted to just get your reaction anyway.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Yeah, why would I quit? I mean, there's like why like what like why would I quit? Right? I am so satisfied and so happy where I am right now. I am so happy to just go live. And sometimes I have ideas, or sometimes my streams are planned to like play a game for the rest of the stream, but I would like to chat to everybody, and it goes between like 30 to an hour, 30 minutes to like an hour of me just chatting because like I get so lost in just having a sit-down conversation with these people, and it's not just one person, it's multiple people getting to share interests, getting to share different topics, opinions, ideas about a topic that we're talking about. So that is what I like to wake up every day to is being able to not just play that game, but also just talking to them. So I'm very satisfied where I am now. This is exactly what I wanted and what I saw myself wanting to be a year ago.

Patty 39:36

That is wonderful, like seeing you like genuinely hitting the the goals that you had for

Advice for Aspiring Creators

Patty 39:42

yourself. But since you never thought about quitting, what would you say to someone that has been go has been doing this for a while, and you know, nothing that they've tried doing really clicked in a way, you know, like you. You have you have a clear passion, but for some people, like they want to do content creation and they try and it try many things, and they still didn't get there. What do you say to someone like that?

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Dude, keep that up, keep that freaking up, okay? So, like, here's here's the thing too. Like, I don't want to like cater too much to like the the trends and all that kind of stuff, but low key, it kind of does work because then you can get a short burst of an audience from that, and then you then you get to like show yourself like, oh hey, this is who I really am. Or what you could do alternatively is just break the trends and make your own freaking trend. You know, if you want, you gotta stick out like a sore thumb, but not like a sore thumb. You want to stick out like a freaking the the a golden ray of sunshine, you know? Like these are your peers right here. You want to be that thumb, be that freaking thumb, and that's what I wanted to always be was be that thumb from the very start. Coming up with the these ideas to for the poo games, for the collabathon, and maybe even another idea that I'm gonna just have a shower thought, you know, and be like, oh my god, I can do this, and that's gonna continue being that golden ray of thumb, you know. Be that thumb. That's I think what you want what what you need to be, you know, like and however way you do it, keep doing what you're doing, keep making streams and finding great moments and catering your streams to a good moment where it can be clipped. Don't don't be like a cringe clip farmer, you know, like like a two-second where it's like ha ha ha ha. Okay, I'm gonna just like the video, share it to a friend, and then just keep growing, right? Sell them. At the end of the day, you're selling yourself to show interest in people why they want to support you. Why? Why do you want why do you want to watch these people? You know, why why think about why do they want to watch Patty? Why do they want to watch Shaqie Pooh? I want people to watch me because I want people to invest in what I could come up with, you know, to prove myself, right? And if you can think about that earlier on and like think that from the start and then use that to thrive yourself, then I think that's how you're gonna get it. That's how you're gonna crack it, and that's how you're gonna be that golden thumb.

Final Thoughts

Patty 42:13

This has been like a very cheerful I feel like the vibe has been different from a lot of other interviews that I've done. But uh, before we go, is there anything that you know I didn't ask or you didn't say it, and you want the listeners to know?

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Something that I like to always say too is don't stream to blow up. And I feel like I see a lot of that, you know, like in a bunch of the comms that I'm a part of. It's like they're trying to like bank off of other people's successes and all that kind of stuff, and it's and there are ways to do that. There are correct ways to do that, and there's incorrect ways to do that. And I want you to really look at yourself, and if you want to do something out of this, then it's because you want that. And from the start, that's what I disferentiated myself with everybody that um that I've seen. Like, I I truly do want this, and if I continue being at the numbers that I am now, so what? Like, okay, that's not what I was looking for from the start. From the start, I was looking for an audience or just me low-key, I like myself a little too much. So what it helped a lot with me is that I like to see what I can do by like looking at myself. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, okay, like like like I I like to fake myself. Like I am the streamer, you know, I'm the streamer, so I want to pretend like I am that streamer, you know? You are that streamer. You could be that streamer, so be that streamer, okay? Be that streamer that you want to be. Okay. So I guess that's that's my parting words to you, I guess.

Patty 44:00

I think liking yourself too much is like another way of saying you're your own biggest fan, and I feel like you have to be if you want to make in any type of content

Where to Find Jackie Poo Woo

Patty 44:09

creation. But yeah, it's your moment to tell our listeners where they can find you out there on the internet.

SPEAKER_01 44:15

Jackie Poo-Woo. Every single everywhere. Literally everywhere. YouTube.com slash Jackie Pooh, Twitch.tv slash Jackie Pooh, uh TikTok slash Jackie Pooh, Instagram slash Jackie Pooh. I have a Reddit. I have a Discord. Uh go to my bout section, Linksree slash Jackie Poo. Literally Jackie Poo-Woo Jackie Poo Jackie Poo-Woo.

Patty 44:36

And if you forget to get that Google, you'll find it.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Just Google, literally just Google Jackie Pooh and you'll see everything on there. So go ahead if you're interested in what uh I've have been having to say for the past 50 minutes.

Patty 44:49

So

Who should be the next guest on The Growth Raid?

Patty 44:52

and the last question, a very important question before I let you go, is if I could have any streamer out there here in the podcast having a conversation like this, who would you like to see Connor?

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Connor's anime. I think he would actually eat this up. He is a really great down-to-earth streamer that he was like the first person I ever actually met online. He's actually the person that I'm gonna be seeing um from Wales. And he he is on his grind right now, and it's actually fantastic to see his girls. But every single time I do a collab stream or every time I talk to them, he always like he always just wants to be in like a deep sentimental conversation. And I think this would be a really great podcast for him to speak what has been on his mind about what he's been doing on his journey live streaming.

Patty 45:41

So that guy that that you know, I thought you were gonna give me someone that I absolutely don't know because we are in like totally different Twitch circles, but because I've seen you on your stream and I'm like, oh yeah, I know who we were talking about.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

Oh, you do know him, okay.

Patty 45:56

No, but it's fine. Um, I you know, I um a lot of people that I ask this question is people that you know are on like Twitch stream teams, and I usually know everyone on the stream team, so it's like who who of the tr the team? I'm sure they're gonna say someone of the team, but it's really cool because it gives me an excuse to go and reach out to that people.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Also, when you said stream team, I want to make a stream team once I get once I get partner, I'm gonna be poo-woo twitch stream team. Okay, I'm inviting all my friends, so look out for that. Look out for that.

Patty 46:31

Yeah, now you have a reason to actually want to go for partner.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Right there.

Patty 46:37

Yeah, thank you again for joining us today, Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Thank you for having me. It was a fun time.

Outro & Credits

Patty 46:44

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